The Ndebele are a Nguni people, they originate from Nguniland which was an area South East of Afrika which stretched from encompassed parts of Present day KZN, Swaziland and Eastern Transvaal. They first travelled with Abakwa Zelemu (AmaBhaca) to Ubombo Mountains and later broke away and entered the Transvaal. Their first known chief was Mafana. They proceeded to present day Mohlakeng (Mhlangeni) near Randfontein and continued to a place called Kwa-Mnyamana near Pretoria under the leadership of King Musi. After the death of Musi they split into two tribes Ndzundza and Manala due to succession dispute. Ndzundza and Manala were the sons of Musi Mhlanga.
Masombuka settled with the Ndzundza group while Mthombeni and Sibasa headed north with their followers. Sibasa later joined the be-Venda. Mrhwaduba joined the Pedi near Turfloop in Limpopo.
Dlomu went back to KZN, Mphafudi and Litjha ended with the South Sotho in Lesotho and Free State.
All the above were sons of Musi of Mhlanga.
The Ndzundza group moved past Middleburg and settled at Roosenekal (Kwasimkhulu) The Manala group returned to Kwamnyamana after the truce they made with the Ndzundza group near Loskop Dam Middleburg at a place called Konoqolo/Koqoli.
When Ndzundza died his son Mrhetja took over, and when Manal died his son Silamba took over kingship.
Later regents ruled the Ndzundza, those were Siboko, Somdeyi and Mabhoko.
Mabhoko died in 1865 and Masilela took over followed by Soqaleni who ruled until 1873, followed by Xobongo up to 1879, who was succeeded by Nyabela.
In the 1980’s the Musi Ndebele were given the land in the north-east of Pretoria near Groblersdal and Marblehall (Siyabuswa) as their semi-independent homeland. The youth and the Ndzundza royal house resisted apartheid independence. That place was called Kwandebele and is now under Mpumalanga province of the Republic of South Africa.
The language that these Ndebele spoke was a mixture of Nguni, Pedi and Afrikaans. In the 1980’s efforts were made to preserve a purer form of Ndebele and it has been very successful becaus now they speak pure undiluted Ndebela language which is also taught at schools. Previously they were taugth in Pedi and Zulu languages.
Oupa Mnguni
Bengisabawa izithakazele nezibongo zakwa mnguni unghodela bakwethu
Mkhuze Mahlangu
Masotsha,
Sorry for the spelling mistakes. I typed this text with a cell phone. But I think I did my best and hope your I answered your question. It was not was not easy.
Cheers
perspectivebykholofelomothoa
What a powerful piece
Freddy Sibindi
Hi
I am Sibindi, son of July Piet Sibindi whom left me while i was young at the year 1997, He left with my mother when we were staying at potchstroom, by then i were 4 years old. i had challenges through every step o f my life because i had no dad, and my mother was staying with the other man whom departed us. and chase me away from home just because i were trying to find the truth about my real father and my culture, so i had to drop out of school because both of them were no longer supporting me in any how. So i went to work at the farm in order to get money that will help me to go seek for my father, so after i got money i asked my mother to at least give me a direction to where i can find my father and that was in 2011. She did agree to help me with that and gave me my fathers names and surnames and told me that he stays at Hoopstad. So i have found where my late father were staying and his family which told me not to worry they will help me to know everything my father and his culture, Oops nothing have happen up to so far, and also lost my beloved mother in 2015 she past away so please anyone of the Sibindi or relate with the Sibindi help me to find help about my fathers culture etc please ….. this are the number i can be reached at 073 471 2677. on face book (Freddy sibindi) or snipes Abrams. or you can find on this number 073 865 5138 Maseokamo thats a woman who chose fill my mother space in my life and she still trying to help me through
Jabu
Most Sibindi families are In Zimbabwe they are part of the AmaNdebele nation of Zimbabwe, if u had resonable means it would have helped if u were to visit Zimbabwe especially kwaBulawayo you’ll find a good number of families. They obviously originate from South Africa they went to Zim with Mzilikazi.
Ntuthuko Zwane
Jabu, this is not true. Pedi people are called Sibindi/Mgwaba. Pedi and Mbili/Mbire/Mbele/Phiri is the same surname. This includes all Ntuli, Sibisi/Sompisi, Ndlela and other tribes that come from the Zwane or Mbathane or Bethia or Mthiya tribe of Hasebias/KaSibiya. Another name for these is Semenya/Mzimela/Mzila noma Bosia/Mosia/Mosani/Msane or Mtshemla/Masimula people who are all over South Africa and particularly KZN and Eastern Cape and all Sotho-speakers. Pedi people are Sibisi tribes from KZN. All Sothos are Ngunis and all Ngunis are Sothos.
Another name for Sibindi is Mgwaba and they are found under Mbhense people who are also called Mbeje kaDladla/oseNgome. Also called Mpisi or Mbezi (as in Zambezi = Sibisi, all tribes of Zambia/Sarvia/Zeroua/Siruya or Silula/Shiloa/Soane/Swane/Zwane) or Vezi or Mpithi or Bithi or Mbethe or Mvethe (as in Bhele Nomvethe) or Luza or Mawusa or Emmaus or Hoza or Xhosa or Ngoza or Khoza or Gosa. These people are Zulus and also called Mageba or Magiba or Mlaba/Mhlaba/Bethrapha/Rapha/Phahla/Mabasa/Mabaso or Nyawo or Ndawo/Ndau or Yao or Mlawu or Jehu or Njeru or Ilunga (eCongo) or Ximba or Simba or Swimba or Svimba or Sibimba or Siphemba or Siba (as in Sibanyoni or Sibalukhulu etc.) or Sibi or Msibi or Izibi or Dzivi or Zibi. Ndau are also Mntungwa or Tonga or Tau or Duma or Ngonyama or Ngwenya/Ngwenyama or Mbube or Mpolokoma or Leeu or Lion or Mlilo.
UMgwaba = Gcaba = Mageba (or Magiba or simply Mange or Ngema or Mangwe or Mungwe son of Zwane) is a big king former King of the Zulu in Zululand and the tribe gives birth to Joel or Tsheli or Tshe or Maseko or Mshengu or Masole or Sure or Sue or Nzule or Ntule or AmaThole or Mjoli or Jele or Jere – this the highest ranking clan of the Nguni. The second is Saphan or Sarvia or Sabiya or Sibiya or Mashabane or Mashobane or Macobane (that was ruled by Mzilikazi before he went to consolidate Zulu power in Zimbabwe or Nzimakwe). The third is Janai or Jiyane or Jeria or Manyelela or Nyerera or KaMatshana or Litshana/Lishabane/Liswani/Lishane/Malisela/Mayisela. The last is called Saphat or Nhlabathi. A little bit further North if us they use Sebaoth or Sabaoth.
Around Mtata where a lot of Sibisi’s live and in Eastern Cape in general, they go by Qaba or Gcaba or Nqaba or Mkhaba etc.
Sibindi is also known as Zembethe KaSibiya or Zebedee, son of Sibiya. The rulers of this clan AbaNtwane bakaMpande or Bethani or AbaNtwane or Nzwane or Zwane or Matiwane or Mazinyane or Maziwane or Maziyane or Bethia or Mthiya or Elizabeth or Ethan or Mathanias or Mthaniya.
Another way of writing Sibindi is Nhlabathi or Sabathi or Sambadi or Sebenzie or Sebetie simply Mswati or Mosadi or Mfazi. A common praise name is Mahlase or Matlatse. Another way to write Sibindi is Sepedi or Sebidi or Sibili. Yet another one is Thabethe or Thabatha, thus why Pedi people call themselves Mathabatha.
The ruling house of Sibindi in Zululand is called Mahlabathini/Sebentwane/Si(bi)ndane/ Nsindane/Zethan/Zidiya/Mpangazitha/Nsindeni, also called Mathathias or Sedecias
or Matatiele or Madadeni or Mantantisi or Mthantisi or Sithathi or Sithathu (KaMsweli wakwaMzimela kaMgwezane/kaLiswani/KaMaswanganyi/Ka Molefe/Mofengu/ Mfuye/ Mfuli/Yebo/ Bhengu/Ncube/Ngobe/Ngoye/Gumbi) where the 2 big house of Nkonjeni/Goshen/ Ngobeni/ Ncubeni/Nkobeni/Khoseni/Ngutsheni Ngubeni/Nkumbini/Makubedi/Mulapedi/ Morapedi/Qwabe/Gcwabe/Gwambe/ Mncwabe/Mugabe/Makhufe/Ngoyen/ Cohen/Ngweni/ Ngoni/Hanoch/Enoch/Joab (my grandmother is from this house) and the other house being Ncube/Ngobe/Ngoye/Okoye/Ngube/Gombe/Nkomo/Moyo/Molo/Gumbi/Bingu/Bhengu/ Mfengu/Molefe. This house is from Sekhukhune, called Sikhakhane in KwaZulu or Singo-Nguni or Maseko-Nguni or just Maseko which is = Sole/Sure, it is written as Sue in the Bible. This Sue is the progenitor of all the Ndebele clans.
These are tribes that live in and originated from KwaZulu-Natal. When splinter groups former, they did not move with all the people of that clan. They merely moved and created illegitimate Royal seats and the seats they vacated were filled by other people in KZN.
In Hosea Chapter 1 in the Douay Rheims Bible, you will that Osee/Hosea/Hhosiya/ Lozia/Lakosi/KaNkosi/Wangozi = Maswanganyi/KaZwane/Nathani/Phuzani/Busani/Natal had to wed Debelaim and continue their marriage despite Debelaim being a harlot. In this Chapter, God also stipulates clearly which tribes will survive the onslaught brought about by our sins and the denial that God wants to be involved in everything that we do.
Just because the surname is not Sibindi does not mean that there aren’t in KZN. The same misconception exists for Jere or Jele. It exists as Mjoli or Moloi or Moholi or Joel or Tshelinzima or Matshe or eTsheni and many more.
Khulekani Sibindi
Freddy, mfowethu, it is a good thing that you want to know imvelaphi yakho. Thina abakoSibindi, Mabhena, Mahlangu, singamaGodonga sonke. Isizwe sisahleli kahle, engakafiki uMzilikazi kaMashobana, inkosi ebibusa ngu king Sibindi. Okungangokuthi ubukhosi bakwaMjekejeke ngendlela efaneleyo ngobakwaSibindi hatshi uMabhena.
Nanku umlando wakwaSibindi.
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Mzilikazi was well welcome by the King and his people, appreciating his skills in battles etc. as a way of life at the time, tribes used to attack their neighbour if there is something they want and is in possession of others including cattles and if they feel they are undermined.
Mzilikazi and his few men estimated at 300 used to be part of the troops of amaNdebele when they were attacking other tribes. As a believe amongst people that a real relationship is sealed with marriage, thus how Mzilikazi was viewed and treated. He was given a princes to marry but he bemoan the fact that he does not have cattles to marry the daughter of the King. Mzilikazi then began to request some Ndebele backup to attack some tribe with an aim to get cattle’s so he can marry the daughter of the King. After careful consideration Mzilikazi was allowed to make use of some Ndebele man. It is said he did that three times but on a third occasion he had already plan his escape.
On this occasion it is said he took the amaNdebele back up far away and when the sun was about to set he advise that they should rest. Is during this time that when everyone was relaxing, having some sorghum beer and meat, his men took the spear of amaNdebele and rap it with grass. Upon realizing that amaNdebele best trusted troops are now not in a sober mood Mzilikazi’s men surrounded amaNdebele while others have already went back home to kill the King. When amaNdebele became aware that something is wrong they were already surrounded.
Those who went back after completing their mission they set the entire royal kraal on fire also as assign to those in the bushes that they are done. They fled the area which clearly they have already mastered it having stayed full two years. The news of the assasination of the King spread fast necessitating amaNdebele regrouping and call for backup from neighboring clans including the Mayisa clan. Together with King Sibindi’s uncle Mavula who was staying near Harthely they drove Mzilikazi’s troops past KoSoMazabanye/ Cullinan. That is why the praise song for the King says “Ngushlangu sidabula udaka mhlana abaNtungwa bawa ubusolokohlo KoSoMazabanye”. However, Mzilikazi went away with thousands of young men and women hence he could not avoid calling themselves amaNdebele due to the high number of high contingent of people of amaNdebele descent. Also it was convenient for Mzilikazi because that was the best way deceiving those who were high on his heels.
But Mzilikazi fleeing from amaNdebele from KwaMnyamana he went east. When amaNdebele at KwaMaza received the news of King Sibindi assassination it was late. Mzilikazi had began attacking amaNdebele at KwaMaza in 1826 where he caught King Magodongo and his sons. He tied King Magodongo after killing all his sons and took him back Mkobola mountain river and tied him to the big rock and threw him alive to the river(isiziba). He took some of amaNdebele there though many had already ran away. Mzilikazi continue attacking all tribes on his way and by the time the boers and Batswana combine forces to drive him away he had already commanding a troop of more eighteen thousands people. He cross to Bachwanaland (current Bitswana). It is said Mzilikazi split his group into two there other group cross to Zimbabwe from the north while other from the west. That is how in Zimbabwe you find amaNdebele in large numbers but also all tribes of South Africa are there even though in less numbers. AmaNdebele arrive in Zimbabwe at Ntabazinduna in the land of the Khalanga/ Kgalaka.
At home in KwaMnyamana Mavula as an younger brother to Sibindi took over the reign during a mourning period of the death of the King and the mother queen. After a year in 1826 King Mavula relinquishes the reign back to the heir King Mdala.
Mzilikazi’s foot print is well visible even today. In his route to Zimbabwe you will find pockets amaNdebele began with Rustenburg, Botswana at Odi and some some went belong Zimbabwe to Zambia.
That is how Mzilikazi became a Ndebele instead of Mtungwa/ Khumalo. As to whether Mzilikzai is the founder of amaNdebele is the question well answered in the narrated history above and it should be treated as such. We hope writers will from now have guts to dig more about this than rushing to rap amaNdebele under Mzilikazi kaMashobane.
Musa
Lotjhani maNdebele, ngibawa onomlandu wakwa Mgidi, Mbonani, Masimula angirhelebhe ngyabawa