All the clans in the Eastern Cape originate in the Natal or KZN region. Before the diaspora or forced migration, there were no tribes in SA , only Nguni or Bantu nation. The early white settlers came with the name “tribe” to distinguish different groups of migrants using the clan names of their chiefs : The group led by Shaka Zulu which was interestingly a combination of different clansceg Abathethwa was given the name Zulu after the clan name of their chief Shaka ka Zulu, they did the same in the EC calling a mixture of different clans AmaXhosa after the clan name of their leader.
The Miya’s in the Eastern Cape migrated from KZN seeking refugde because of King Shaka then as time went they adepted to the ways of the East after being educated more about life the could have wanderd anywhere but chose the Eastern Cape, I myself am a Miya from Northern Cape that grew up in Eastern Cape, born in the North West Province
No, they are not all Mfengu. Mfengu consists in a number of clans, and even tribes, including some Miya. At some stage it even included Bathembu.
Mfengu are those parts of tribes or clans who sought refuge under Hintsa. They said, siyamfenguza. Not all the Miya tribe sought refuge under Hintsa
In Response to Mandl Mdludlu. All Nguni Tribes are related however, the Miya tribe in the Eastern Cape is distictly Xhosa whilst the Miya tribe in Kwa-Zulu Natal is Distinctly Zulu. The surnames and clan names cause a little confusion but this becomes but the differences become more pronounced when you look at the customs practiced by the two tribes. The Miya tribe within Eastern Cape practices ukusoka as a path to manhood whilst the Miya tribe in Kwa-Zulu Natal does not practice ukusoka as a path to manhood. Furthermore the Miya tribe in the Kwa-Zulu Natal practices umemulo as a path to womanhood whist the Miya tribe in the Eastern Cape practice Intonjane as a path to womanhood. There are greater deeper divides in the cultural practices between the Miya tribes of the Easter Cape and those of Kwa-Zulu Natal. These dividers are present and seperate the two into their respective Nations/Tribes. However these divides do not takeaway from the fact that these two lineages in terms of the Zulu Nation and the Xhosa Nation are part of a bigger family which is the Nguni Nation. The Miya’s are but an example of the relatedness that occurs within the Nguni Nation. Many Surnames are shared within different tribes and many clan names can be found common within the Nguni Nations
These clan names (Miya, Gcwanini) are common in the Eastern Cape.I Are you telling me that those in KwaZulu-Natal bearing the same clan names are related to those in the Eastern Cape?
All Nguni tribes and nationals are related. However, the Miya’s in the Eastern Cape are distinctly Xhosa whilst those in Kwa-Zulu Natal are distinctly Zulu. There is a relation through Surnames and Clan Names but these relations are somewhat arbitrary now due to customs adopted by the different Miya’s. For instance, the Miya Lineage in the Eastern Cape practices ukusoka in the traditional Xhosa manner as a path to manhood whilst those in Kwa-Zulu Natal do not practice ukusoka as a path to manhood. The Miya’s within Kwa-Zulu Natal emanate from the Kwa-Zulu Natal Midlands and practice Zulu customs in the Zulu manner.
I myself am a Miya in Eastern Cape. My grandmother told me that the Miya clan in Eastern Cape migrated from the KZN during the time of Shaka Zulu, she also informed me that the Xhosa Miya’s don’t have a home because bayafenguza. I hope this helps.( there is a book about how part of the Miya clan got to Eastern Cape but it’s really old I’m not sure you can find it.)
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Desmond Mnyila
All the clans in the Eastern Cape originate in the Natal or KZN region. Before the diaspora or forced migration, there were no tribes in SA , only Nguni or Bantu nation. The early white settlers came with the name “tribe” to distinguish different groups of migrants using the clan names of their chiefs : The group led by Shaka Zulu which was interestingly a combination of different clansceg Abathethwa was given the name Zulu after the clan name of their chief Shaka ka Zulu, they did the same in the EC calling a mixture of different clans AmaXhosa after the clan name of their leader.
Hlonolofatso K L Mabija
The Miya’s in the Eastern Cape migrated from KZN seeking refugde because of King Shaka then as time went they adepted to the ways of the East after being educated more about life the could have wanderd anywhere but chose the Eastern Cape, I myself am a Miya from Northern Cape that grew up in Eastern Cape, born in the North West Province
Zukiswa Vakalisa
Miya
Mja
Sibewu
….are one big family whether from Eastern Cape or Kwa Zulu Natal .NgamaMfengu onke
Francis Mnyele
No, they are not all Mfengu. Mfengu consists in a number of clans, and even tribes, including some Miya. At some stage it even included Bathembu.
Mfengu are those parts of tribes or clans who sought refuge under Hintsa. They said, siyamfenguza. Not all the Miya tribe sought refuge under Hintsa
Sizwe Mchunu
In Response to Mandl Mdludlu. All Nguni Tribes are related however, the Miya tribe in the Eastern Cape is distictly Xhosa whilst the Miya tribe in Kwa-Zulu Natal is Distinctly Zulu. The surnames and clan names cause a little confusion but this becomes but the differences become more pronounced when you look at the customs practiced by the two tribes. The Miya tribe within Eastern Cape practices ukusoka as a path to manhood whilst the Miya tribe in Kwa-Zulu Natal does not practice ukusoka as a path to manhood. Furthermore the Miya tribe in the Kwa-Zulu Natal practices umemulo as a path to womanhood whist the Miya tribe in the Eastern Cape practice Intonjane as a path to womanhood. There are greater deeper divides in the cultural practices between the Miya tribes of the Easter Cape and those of Kwa-Zulu Natal. These dividers are present and seperate the two into their respective Nations/Tribes. However these divides do not takeaway from the fact that these two lineages in terms of the Zulu Nation and the Xhosa Nation are part of a bigger family which is the Nguni Nation. The Miya’s are but an example of the relatedness that occurs within the Nguni Nation. Many Surnames are shared within different tribes and many clan names can be found common within the Nguni Nations
Mandla Mdludlu
These clan names (Miya, Gcwanini) are common in the Eastern Cape.I Are you telling me that those in KwaZulu-Natal bearing the same clan names are related to those in the Eastern Cape?
Sizwe Miya
All Nguni tribes and nationals are related. However, the Miya’s in the Eastern Cape are distinctly Xhosa whilst those in Kwa-Zulu Natal are distinctly Zulu. There is a relation through Surnames and Clan Names but these relations are somewhat arbitrary now due to customs adopted by the different Miya’s. For instance, the Miya Lineage in the Eastern Cape practices ukusoka in the traditional Xhosa manner as a path to manhood whilst those in Kwa-Zulu Natal do not practice ukusoka as a path to manhood. The Miya’s within Kwa-Zulu Natal emanate from the Kwa-Zulu Natal Midlands and practice Zulu customs in the Zulu manner.
Sonqishe
I myself am a Miya in Eastern Cape. My grandmother told me that the Miya clan in Eastern Cape migrated from the KZN during the time of Shaka Zulu, she also informed me that the Xhosa Miya’s don’t have a home because bayafenguza. I hope this helps.( there is a book about how part of the Miya clan got to Eastern Cape but it’s really old I’m not sure you can find it.)
Mihlali S Qangule
Those in Eastern Cape originate from KwaZulu Natal.